USAAF Base Area Depot 1 (known as BAD 1) Station 590, Burtonwood, 8th Air Force, England 1943 -1945. (We have been kindly loaned all the following photographs from Lonnie England who is the son of Jimmy England. Please do NOT copy any of these photos without permission from Lonnie)
in the middle with his leg hiked up
Records show that 27 RAF mosquito's were modified or repaired between the 1st of July 1943 - the 8th of May 1945 (VE day) & the 'Gang' were probably posing for this shot because of the mosquito's in the background to the right.' The 'Flight Test Gang' that Jimmy was in With 2 x De Havilland Mosquito's in the Background to the Right, a P47 Thunderbolt to the Left & behind that a C47.
like they were taken at either tech site or 'A' site.
hangar that is visible behind the American truck.
Jimmy England is in the middle. Jimmy was the navigator on this C47 test flight.
The flight test crew received the aircraft from maintenance division and after careful pre-flight checks and engine runs they took each aircraft up for a test flight before signing that it was ready for delivery. Delivery flights were undertaken by the ferry flight squadrons or by flight test personnel. Jimmy Often Visited This Pub Back in 1944-45 when off duty. The pub is 'The Black Horse Hotel' at School Hill Heswall Wirral Merseyside and was built in 1843. This is How The Pub Looks Now in 2014.
Jimmy England Standing Outside of the Black Horse Hotel 1944-45
You can see that there are some slight changes over the years. For instance, you'll notice that on the photo above there is an outdoor department entrance which has now been changed into a window, although you can still see that the front 2 posts haven't changed at all. Basically it is still very much the same pub 70+ year's on ....
Wirral Merseyside (Grade 2 listed building) - Photo taken 1944-45
As you can see, the photo was taken in almost the exact position as the one in 1944-45 (above with Jimmy England on it)
"This is my girlfriend. She is English & studying to be a nurse. She is very pretty. The picture doesn't do her justice. This is taken in her back yard, pretty isn't it"
photos and so it must be of some relevance? Possibly Jimmy's friend's? (The letters 'N' 'A' on the dress of the lady on the right means 'Nurse Auxiliary')
the Black Horse hotel Heswall, Jean & Harry Hilton. You'll notice that their new address is another pub in Romford Essex called 'The Mawney Arms'
This photo is of a very special aircraft in WW2. It is the Republic P47 Thunderbolt 'Fightin Gator Y8' at Burtonwood USAAF in 1945. The aircraft was piloted by Fred Varn's of the 404th Fighter Group 507 Squadron. The aircraft was donated by Republic Employees & it completed 200 missions without a technical abort. The aircraft was painted with the employee donated plaque and the ribbons of the distinguished flying cross, the medal and the purple heart.
when it went to Burtonwood (where he was stationed) "This P47 has quite a history behind it (200 missions)"
it was at Burtonwood at technical site.
The B17 at the front just shows the tail number.
on a 'tug' in front of the B17 called 'We The People'
'The guy on the 'tug' pulls the planes when they are to close to taxi"
Boeing B-17-f Flying Fortress 41-24614 named We the People Boeing B-17-f Flying Fortress 41-24614 named We the People became to be a very special Aircraft that carried out 76 missions and claiming 13 enemy Aircraft destroyed. Assigned to the 364 BS/305 BG and arriving at Bangor on the 10th of September 1942 and later moving to RAF Grafton Underwood on the 25th of October in 1942. The aircraft was later transferred to RAF Chelveston, spending its time with the 364th and 442nd bomb squadrons of the305th bomb group. During January 1944 We the People was involved in a landing accident at RAF Chelverton and on 4th may 1944 & was transferred to Base air Depot 1 at RAF Burtonwood Lancashire. The aircraft was then repaired and overhauled at Burtonwood and then flown to LA. Junta in the united states and then on the 14th June 1944 joined the first motion picture unit making training films. We the People was later renamed Betty Central 0149 and became a training aircraft. On the 31st of July 1945, the aircraft was sold for scrap and broken up at Searcey Field. We the People with Lieutenant Weil and his crew of the 305th bomb group England on the 26th April 1944.
"Not so much to say about this one, only that it has seen better days"
"Hi Malc Just viewed your web site I am the 490th BG Historian and I am interested in some of the pictures posted on th James (Jimmy) England's page as I feel it has what were at one time aircraft that had been with the 490th BG and were sent to Burtonwood for in theater modification but which did not return to the group. This is the complete nose art for "Snottie Dottie" attached plus the picture on that page I was wondering if you have this picture as in the background is a B-24 tail and I wonder if you have this picture can you read the serial number and if you can would you be kind enough to let me know what it is please. I hope you do not mind me asking" Eric 490th BG Historian
"The piece covering the girls head is armour plate to protect the pilot ... I don't know where it is now?"
It was called a 'Piggie Back P38' because it had an extra seat behind the pilot. In the background to the left is a P47 Thunderbolt.
"This is a P38 with an extra seat in back of the pilot called a 'Piggie Back P38'. I just came back from a 2 hour flight in it with Lt. Oswald - The guys are having a drink of this so called English beer."
Notice that it has an armoured plate next to the pilot just below the cockpit window.
"Lee Mee Bee in front - these ships sure played hell with German targets"
(Long distance shot of previous photos)
"B17 on perimeter track getting ready for take off"
"Here is Johnny Ryals my good buddie. We have been together ever since I left ... Johnny is from Colo (must mean Colorado?)"
"Here is Johnny - To bad we didn't know how to distance these shots?"
Here is the same 'back' of the photo turned upright.
This farm (below in the photo) was called 'Brook House farm' and was built before the airfield at USAAF Burtonwood was constructed, and when the American's took occupation of the base it became General Isaac W Ott's personal residence. He was the base Commander and the farmhouse was sited what became known as site 6 which was the communal living site and it was also where 'The Flight Test Crew's' where billeted.
"The general's house, the back of it at that compare it with those shacks in the other pictures. I should have been a general."
'The Flight Test Crew's' had moved across the airfield from 'A' site to the 'K' type hangar on 'Tech Site' in early 1944. They were billeted there because site 6 is very close to 'Tech Site'. Site 6 was enlarged immediately on arrival of the USAAF to accommodate the huge influx of USAAF staff and technicians etc. and as mentioned before site 6 was constructed very close to 'Tech Site' because 'Tech Site' was the centre of flight testing operations This is one of the 60 nissen huts on Site 6 which was constructed by USAAF.
"Johnny on top. L to R. Stein, Nichols, Glick. All good 'Joe's'. We have been together ever since I left"
"L to R top row, Joy Finley, Andy Anderson, Cox, Jack Powers .... L to R bottom row, Sandy, Pappy Scals, Buesing .... Finley - Cox - Sandy - Pappy - Buesing" "We are all in the same hut"
"Here is your 'bag' after putting in many flying hours"
"This is a 'Liney' Motor we stripped down into a 'smooth' (we think it says?) job" The date and address is: 6-6-44 Norman Sreider 532 N. 3rd. St. Columbia. PA.
This was barrack hut 16 on Site 6. You can see Brook House Farm (General Isaac W Ott's personal residence) in the background. Barrack hut 16 is one of the 18 temporary brick rendered finish barrack huts on site 6 that was originally built for the RAF but was taken over by the USAAF on arrival.
"This is Jean ... he has my jacket + glasses + mess hit. Trying to make him look like a M.D."
Volley ball game in the centre of the barrack blocks on site 6 facing barrack block 25 (on the left). The personnel often watched movies in the building on the right (building 24). Note in the foreground the posts supporting the lagged pipes. These lagged pipes heated the temporary bricked barrack huts, but the Nissen huts had their own heating from a coal or wood burning stove. In the background are buildings 11 and 9 and just to the left in the background you can just see the apex/roof of building 12. These 3 x buildings are called Bellman Hangars.
Below is a photo that was taken in 2014 and it was taken in the exact same position where the volleyball game was being played in the black and white 1944 photo above. In the foreground (beyond the tree in the middle) were the 3 Bellman Hangars buildings 9, 11 and 12. The new building in the background was part of what was known as 'G' site and is currently the Royal Mail sorting office and it wasn't visible behind the 3 Bellman Hangars in the black and white photo above. However, there was a large building with a large storage/workshop built on the land in the exact same position as where the Royal Mail sorting office stands today in 2014.
"Volley ball - Sunday afternoon. Right background is where we have movies"
Note the lagged pipes again going across the centre of the photo. The 3 buildings at the back is building number 5 and were the mess rooms with the kitchen in the middle. Also note the 'K' type hangar in the far right background on 'Tech Site'.
The new ASDA storage facility is currently under construction in the background.
"Same volley ball game - mess hall in the rear"
The same volley ball game again shot in a slightly different angle more going across the volley ball area. The barrack hut on the left is number 13, the laterine building (in the middle next to barrack hut 13) is number 26 and finally the barrack hut on the right is number 25. To help you more, the cinema is now out of the picture shot just on the right.
"Same volley ball game - barracks in the rear"
'The Flight Test Crew' standing next to the control tower which was originally built for the RAF to Air Ministry drawing number watch office for all commands 12779/41 small front windows to 15371/41. Note the control tower sign has a small aircraft propeller attached to it.
This is what is written on the back of Jimmy's photo: "Murry, Jackson, Nichols, Stein, L-R .... we were really marking up the hours about the time these pictures were taken"
"Nichols & Lang L-R"
(WACS stands for 'Women's Army Corps) who were stationed at Burtonwood. They undertook many tasks, including secretarial, warehousing duties and even some on flight tests.
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"Red & Stein L-R .... Red navigates by railroad tracks, lakes, rivers and such, but he sits ya down where you're supposed to go ...... can't understand his flying"
"Stein & Nichols L-R when we were ferrying ships to other combat outfits"
This photo shows the aircraft movement board. The one on the left is showing the aircraft that is ready for delivery and the one on the right is showing aircraft that is ready for flight testing.
We think that this photo was taken on 'A' site at Burtonwood or 'Tech Site' with the 'K' type hangar showing in the background on the left of the picture.
"Maverick, Falcon where 'sad shack' were just being completed. When this picture was taken everything was in a mess"
The first 2 look like they are marked up with invasion stripe markings.
"John on a tug in 'sad shack' waiting for the pilots to take those p47's away"
